hyena17
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The performances were great, my personal comfort level was zero 😂
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38 minutes ago, svenisms said:
If it’s any encouragement, I saw them during the second leg of the 2nd Law tour and, as far as I know, it was the original stage setup. However, I don’t think the 2nd Law tour undersold the way this one is, so who knows.
The way I see it, there are ways they can strip back the production to cut costs while still being pretty cool to look at.
Yeah I know, that was my point in comparing this tour to T2L. They played stadiums that summer and then came back to the US in September with the same production as the 1st leg. But yeah, it will all depend on money.
Don't get me wrong, I was happy they came back at all after Drones to play gigs for the places they skipped, but looking back - it kind of sucked. Summer amphitheater shows here in the Southeast are miserable because of the heat and humidity (and delays for storms like in Charlotte). With the smaller stage setup and both Muse and 30STM having VIP tickets with early entry, there was virtually no barrier left for normal GA folks at any of the gigs.
That's why I'm so worried. I despise amphitheater shows and would rather see them play half of an arena any day. But ofc it's prob not the financially smart option. ☹️
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16 minutes ago, Let2529 said:
Quick general Muse Fan question... Las Vegas Mandalay Bay 3/2 was my first MUSE show and I was super excited. And they did not disappoint, show was amazing from production to song choices to sound it was just awesome. I have been to other rock concerts from Tool, Metallica and 9inch nails to more mainstream stuff like green day, offspring and no doubt. Never ever in my life have I SAT at a show start to finish I'm on my feet and so are the people around me. At MUSE tho eveyone around me sat for most of the show...it struck me as odd but is this a thing I should know for my next go around????
You just had bad luck and were in a section with a sucky crowd. Sorry! I've only ever had seats to a handful of Muse shows (I always do GA), and I've always stood. I have a seat for the Florida gig and I fully plan on standing.
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I hope you're wrong.
With the places they skipped on this tour it would be a shame for those folks to not get this setup at all. Tbh, the production for this tour is so awesome that it's a shame there are so few arena dates, period.
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36 minutes ago, OriginOfAbso said:
They'll likely do a second leg but with a much smaller production, like they did with the amphitheater tour for the second leg after the Drones tour.
Yeah but outdoor amphitheater season will be over in Sept. I think if they come back it will be the same as 2013 - they'll do like 10 or so shows with the same production.
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there are GA tix available on TM for this one now.
I'll be there (IN A SEAT!)
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13 hours ago, plastic passion said:
I have the cheaper vip so I was curious as to what time people line up. I had early entry for The Killers and while I was on my way to Universal Studios (venue right next door) I noticed early entry people lined up at 830am. So aggravating. Hope people dont get that desperate.
Saw this and had to chime in. The $$ I spent on VIP for the Killers on their last tour was worthless. They oversold (didn't appear to have a cap at all) their VIP and apparently everyone buys it. I really enjoy the killers and have seen them multiple times but I'm not a superfan. So yeah, my friend and I happened to go "check the venue" at like 9am the day of the gig and ended up having to stay all day and cancelling our plans because there were already 65 people in THE VIP QUEUE. There were literally more people in that queue than the normal GA queue. Needless to say, we didn't get barrier but the Killers is the one band that I can stand 2nd row and I'm OK because the crowd doesn't move at all.
Weird how that's a blatant money-grab (basically a $150 surcharge on the cost of a ticket), yet I never heard a single fan of theirs complain. At least Muse hasn't quite reached that point yet.
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1 hour ago, plastic passion said:
Does anyone have an idea what time people line up for VIP? I know the check in is around 330 so I assumed around that time. I was reading reddit (maybe) and someone mentioned lining up at 10am for VIP. I was hoping a perk was avoiding all that. booo.
Anyone showing up for VIP at 10am is going to be wandering around with nowhere to go. They don't even start setting up the check-in tables until after 2.
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3 hours ago, JessicaSarahS said:
I didn't queue, but I had friends that did and they still made it on barrier. I was probably 80-something in line and the B-stage barrier was completely full, but there were spots in the middle runway, and front of the stage.
thanks for the info, and great pics as always!
how far back were you in the crowd? i'd give anything for that view of the b-stage but i'm too short. this setup is not very kind to people like me. 😞
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3 minutes ago, plastic passion said:
Good luck! Have you guys decided yet? I have a few people I'd like to take to see Muse but they don't want to travel.
I'm going to be at this show. I live in Florida so we will be driving 5-6 hours. Wish we could fly but we are too cheap.
actually I just found out about an hour ago she can't do it. 😞 I am trying to work out DC now instead since I have friends going to that one.
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Anybody queue for this show? Curious as to how much barrier was available since it sounds like the VIPs had 15 mins to get inside.
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I would love to believe your estimate -- I will use that to make me feel better for the gigs left that I have GA for. 😁
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IMO your estimates are way off. Just from my experience in Dallas, by the time I got to the floor, there was maybe the 15 spots on Matt's side of the catwalk, half the b-stage tip, and a handful of spots on chris's catwalk that were open. Maybe 30 spots total? Maybe more than that in the corners at the main stage -- I didn't look there. I mean, just by looking at photos of the gigs you can count heads and the barrier only holds about 100.
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I had to dig (down) deep to find this thread...
Wish me luck folks, I am trying to convince a coworker who has never seen Muse before to go with me to this gig. She has a bunch of southwest points so we could fly for free, and after this gig, her life will be changed forever. I think it's a good deal for both of us! 😁
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1 hour ago, Liz0_o said:
I'm still in need of a GA ticket if anyone knows where I could get a hold of one!!
There's one on twickets right now
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Well in SD, it sounds like VIP got in early, so I guess problem solved? Now we're back to wondering if normal GA will have any barrier space left!! Pretty skilled of Muse to create a situation where there will be an angry mob of people no matter what you do. 😅 And they could have avoided it all, but *shrug*
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I wish it would happen. With lackluster sales, who knows though. A lot of major cities on that list. Timing-wise that would make this tour very similar to T2L.
The way the dates were spread out on this tour have been horrible. Lots of areas like yours (and mine) that are a 4+ hr drive to the nearest show.
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4 minutes ago, drksid3 said:
Seems like Dallas was a mess all around (the lottery fu*kery too)... but that was all on the venue I think? Though I think I would be pissed if I had paid 500$ to play some VR games and then see my time there reduced to 10 minutes. How much time do top trier VIP actually have with the games? I've read of someone who couldn't even play a round before it was time to line up to access the floor... that is simply robbery.
I'm not sure that anyone only got 10 mins with the games. You saying someone only got one round in is the first I'm hearing of that. In Dallas they were let in at 4pm despite the door delay due to soundcheck. I assumed those people got to play games the whole time they were inside. And yeah, I'd be asking for a full refund if that happened to me.
4 minutes ago, drksid3 said:IMO they should have not had the 2nd level VIP package. It creates confusion because of the way it was advertised and generated discontent among the folks before tickets went on sale because to be completely candid,they were really making it sound like it was the only shot to a barrier spot. IIRC the VIP packages on the Drones tour all included the museum experience...that made sense. Paying extra only to skip the line and get a tin lunchbox? Greedy and unfair to people who can't afford the price and are still very deserving of a front spot like anyone else.
That's the thing. A lot of people that don't normally buy VIP bought the 2nd tier because it sounded like it would be the only way to get barrier, especially since the stage would not be 360 like Drones.
4 minutes ago, drksid3 said:Again I think they changed it since last tour because of both the backlash they got for it and because they sold more bundles than they were expecting and feared causing a real storm (the petition was already enough... I will never forgive the people holding up those signs at the Royal Albert Hall. That was just rude and Matt was pissed about it, thinking the motion didn't reach the band is just naive at this point). They're still not breaking any law because line skipping is early access but hell, I understand that people are pissed about it. I would be mad too if I had paid extra thinking I would be let on the floor before the others and then seeing it reduced to me having to run for a spot as GA comes in from the other side. It would still be only my assumption because the conditions are not clear about this (do I enter before GA? How early is the access?)....and that's why they're allowed to do this.
Ugh thanks for reminding me about those signs at RAH. I thought I put it out of my mind. I still can't get over how many people thought that was an OK thing to do -- at a freaking charity gig.
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Just now, drksid3 said:
The ticket says "early access to the floor before doors", right? I haven't been following this closely but it seems like VIP were given access to the venue before doors and then waited there in line to be let on the floor, am I correct? According to some they had a full minute headstart on GA and some others say they were let in at the same time or 20 seconds apart. Though they still accessed the floor from another side in any case.
If so, it's still the same... skipping the GA line does give you early access to the floor (because you don't go through the GA line), and before doors because you're already inside the venue It's just a different system than that applied on the previous tour but still early access.
One question, do the VIPs who get the EE package have a bonus headstart? So far I haven't seen any of them complaining...Yes, that's what it says on the website. And also yes to the second part (except in Dallas where the doors were delayed. 2nd tier VIP were supposed to get an hour inside the building (per CID staff) to get merch, etc, and we only got about 10 minutes where we couldn't actually do anything because we didn't know when they'd be letting us down to the floor).
And it does seem that so far the head start has ranged from zero to 20 seconds according to reports. I have to disagree with your argument that it is still early access to the floor. It's just not. They've offered the packages with the same wording on previous tours, and it established a precedent that early access to the floor meant "literally be on the floor to choose a spot before GA was allowed in" - I never timed it, but it was usually around 5 minutes, maybe longer. This is excessive ofc, but this thread isn't to debate how wrong this is.
I've seen conflicting reports on FB about what happened last night. Someone with EE said that GA were let in *before* they were, despite the CID people telling them that Tier 1 VIP *always* gets in first, and that when she got to the floor, there were a lot of GAs already there. But someone else that had GA said that they were first in line and as they were entering, there were already VIPs coming down on Matt's side.
And, idk if I've said this on this thread, but I am fine with this "solution" to the problem OTHER THAN THE FACT it screwed over the people that paid money for Tier 2 explicitly for something they advertised and didn't get. Those people should all get partial refunds. On the next tour, they should do away with VIP early entry completely, or change the wording on the ticket to something like "access to the floor via a separate entrance from general GA at doors."
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4 minutes ago, drksid3 said:
I think that is exactly why they're letting GA in at the same time.... people first protested against VIP assuming they would take up the whole barrier (that's never been the case imo, I don't even think they can actually reserve the barrier to VIPs only)
That's exactly what happened with the amphitheater tour. I only got barrier once and it was so far to the right of Chris that nobody wanted that spot - that area stayed empty for a while after doors.
And, they didn't advertise just "early access" - it specifically said "early access to the floor" -- which on previous tours meant physically on the floor first. Whether this is a 30 second head start or a 5 min head start, that can be up for debate.
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1 minute ago, dreamyana said:
Btw, I'm thinking along the same lines! And I'm going to Bristol gig as well, alone. Would like to have someone like-minded in the VIP line with me
are you going solo or with someone?
I'll see you both there 😁
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1 hour ago, ben637 said:
last question, do you get the poster/lunch box before entry and therefore able to take it back to your car to store? Or are you stuck with it inside?
I was there early enough to check in as soon as they started processing people (3pm). You have plenty of time to go back to your hotel or car and come back. 2nd tier was supposed to be let in at 5pm.
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6 hours ago, ben637 said:
Do you have an idea of how many 2nd tier there were? To give an idea of how many of these tickets they are selling.
I counted our line about 10 mins before we went into the building and there were 70 give or take a few. About 10 of these ended up being separated out bc they had seats. I also was sort of keeping track of the top-tier VIPs as they checked in and it was a larger number - maybe 80? But keep in mind a larger percentage of those people have seats. When we got inside the building and were lined up on the concourse, there were about 40 top-tier VIP in front of us to go down to the floor.
Ofc I have no idea if they have a hard cap on the number for sale or if it fluctuates with each gig. I would kind of think 100 is a good estimate of total floor VIP.
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no prob! Yeah you can actually see the steps in the pic that Morgan tweeted this morning. They are on Matt's side of the b-stage, facing the main stage if you were walking down them.
2nd North America leg?
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Yeah, I'm in raleigh!
Yeah those 2 NC shows so close together were a huge surprise! We may not get another one for a while, but otoh, they probably have a pretty decent fanbase built up here. Geographically it could make sense if they do Charlotte - Nashville - Pittsburgh...
Also it was April 2013 when they announced the Fall leg of T2L. So we have a little while to still have hope 😁