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I'd seen Muse at least a half dozen times before the Chicago show. I don't think they had played Bliss at any of them so I was really excited when they kicked into it. They played Map at a few of the shows I've attended. Great song as well but Bliss was easily the best of those options for me.
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4 hours ago, Alimuse said:
The stage look awsome !
I think It will be a tough tour for them, with all the cites around the World. I am lucky they come twice in my town, so I go twice in 2 weeks.
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It seems that Muse are very popular in Quebec. The Bell Centre and Videotron often get 2 shows each while many comparable American cities get skipped completely. I live in Michigan but went to see the show in Chicago because they're not playing Detroit on this tour.
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We attended the Chicago show last night. In short, the band sounded solid. The crowd was so-so. We ended up with upper level seats and hardly anybody bothered to stand up at all through the show which I always find to be very lame.
Bliss was a welcome surprise and Matt really put a lot of energy into it. Verona debut was wonderful, especially because it's my favorite on the new album. I could hardly believe my ears when the started playing Resistance but ok. Also maybe a bit odd that Thought Contagion was the only main survivor from ST (aside from a really pretty instrumental of The Dark Side). I think those two songs just fit in with the general theme of the new album and US audiences would know them. The Cherub Rock outro for the Chicago crowd was a nice touch too.
The multiple playback interludes had a lot to do with changing the stage set-up between songs. I didn't preview much of the Mexican gigs so I don't know if the new backstage "characters" were a total surprise or not.
Great show though. And FWIW, Evanescence kicked ass as an opener.
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On 9/9/2022 at 4:12 AM, Claudia O said:
Second listen (on vinyl)
Verona got stuck in my head! It‘s a great song 😊 anybody else noticed that the guitar sounds like U2 ?
Yes, now Halloween after Ghosts makes sense, turning of the sides 👍 and, „I‘m your number 1 fan“ is on record.
Still no Liberation and Euphoria fan, sorry, but I appreciate Matts falsetto in Euphoria near the end .. as high as Handler, live?
Rocking and laughing, We are fucking fucked. This should be a single !
Verona is very much in the U2 vein. The dreamy layered production also reminds me of last year's Wolf Alice album, Blue Weekend.
That said, it still manages to pinch a few recent Muse elements. The pulsing synths of Algorithm, the plucky guitar melody of Dead Inside, the earnest building power balladry of (gulp!) Guiding Light. Plus the underlying theme of the pandemic-romance lyrics seems to be that "Love is our Resistance!" 😅
Somehow, they fused all that into a really great track.
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6 hours ago, frozenbanana said:
Third, it’s “lows” are nowhere near as annoying, skippable or straight up out-of-place as the bad stuff elsewhere. I think the worst song is Compliance, and that is still miles better than IBTY (not a terrible song, but sooo jarring on TR), Big Freeze, Save Me, Mercy (the lyrics…), Revolt, Aftermath, Get Up and Fight, Dig Down (OG version) and Something Human.
Definitely agree with all this. Those are some shit songs. 😅
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4 hours ago, Timbo59 said:
Now that it's had a few days to sink in, here's my best to worst.
1. Verona
2. Kill or Be Killed
3. We Are Fucking Fucked
4. Euphoria
5. Won't Stand Down
6. Ghosts
7. Compliance
8. Liberation
9. Halloween
10. Will of the People
I love just about every song. The last three less so, but enjoy them for the most part. Solid album, an 8 or 8.5 / 10 for me.
I'm pretty close to you with that list but I'd move WOTP up a few notches and drop Compliance down there to take its place. WOTP should at least be fun in concert. I wasn't a fan of Compliance as a single and listening to it in the context of the album has not changed my opinion much.
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On 8/28/2022 at 5:39 PM, That Little Animal said:
Please. Discuss. There’s a new album out and I’m counting tumbleweeds here to avoid the barrage of “am I the only one who thinks Will of the People sounds like the Beautiful People?” threads posted every five minutes on Reddit.
Reddit is shit. Discord is shit. Kids these days don’t know how to internet.
The Beautiful People comparison is obvious, of course, but I can't listen to the verse without hearing Summertime Blues.
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7 hours ago, Citizen_Eraser said:
The over emphasis of fictional to me seems to be a yeah, it's a fictional setting, but all these things exist in the real world sort of take. Being ironic basically.
George Orwell's 1984 was a work of fiction but clearly a scathing commentary on real world institutions from a very specific point of view.
The question remains. Is Matt trying to be cleverly observant or trite?
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So it's a strange mash-up of Beautiful People and Summertime Blues. Kinda catchy but pretty lazy songwriting nonetheless.
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On 3/28/2022 at 9:50 AM, That Little Animal said:
Stop whining about people whining or I'll whine about it!
We need a new single stat. This place is a desert again and the remaining dwellers are getting restless. Our attention spans haven't improved over the years.Another forgettable single won't do much to improve attention spans and fan engagement.
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3 hours ago, Anticitizen1 said:
From yesterday's email;
ALBUM PREORDER
Will Of The People is now available to pr e-order HERE, with “Compliance” and “Won’t Stand Down” provided as instant downloads. It will be released on digital, black vinyl and CD, as well as a selection of collectible formats on August 26th. These include a marbled double-vinyl which is available exclusively from the band’s Official Store. A limited quantity of signed bundles are also available.
A marbled double-vinyl....
Unless I'm missing something the only "double-vinyl" I can see is the bundle with the marbled and black versions of the same disc. Pretty misleading to refer to it as a marbled double-vinyl if that's the case.
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3 hours ago, Jobby said:
There’s a difference between waiting for something and time elapsing.
I like that line. I might have to use it myself sometime. 👍
3 hours ago, Jobby said:These things aren’t mutually exclusive but the last few ~55 minute Muse albums all had songs that people said should either be trimmed down or cut completely. If those records had done that and gone with a shorter length, you’d get complaints like we are now about it being too short.
What happens when the album running time is already short and it still has songs that could've been cut completely? The first two released tracks are mediocre which means we'll be hoping for a half an hour of decent music at most.
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I've been familiar with most of the B-sides and EP material in one form or another for a while. I can't say that I know much about anything that might have been previously available as bootlegs.
I found the acoustic versions of Cave and Muscle Museum to be quite fascinating but I've always been a fan of the Unplugged genre.
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Moving on to the Origin of Symmetry vinyl, I wouldn't say that the differences are as noticeable as they were with Showbiz. Which is probably for the better because, as has been mentioned previously, OoS really wasn't in serious need of remastering anyway.
On first listen, I noticed the first significant differences during Citizen Erased. Comparing the vinyl remaster to a hi-res MQA stream on Tidal, the newer version seemed to have the bass pulled forward and a wider soundstage while the Tidal stream was more centered, louder and in-your-face so to speak. Comparing the LP to a hi-res stream might be too "apples and oranges" to be considered a real analysis of the remaster but subtle differences were there.
Either way, the discs looked lovely once again.
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I haven't had the time to check out the CD's or read through the book yet but Showbiz sounds great on vinyl. It's not a good basis for me to speak to the remastering because I've only ever heard the album digitally before. I can say that the sound is nice and clean. Some really hearty bass rumbles through the verses of Cave. Definitely more listenable than my old Showbiz CD. Falling Down sounded especially warm, full and bluesy. I kinda wish Muse had more songs in their catalogue with this feel.
It looks real pretty on the turntable as well.
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4 hours ago, kueller said:
Clearly the high point of this clip was the epic fail trying to tear the cardboard open before opting for the much simpler pull-tab. 😂
Great job though. Mine just arrived an hour ago and I haven't gotten around to opening it yet. I'll definitely go for the pull tab though. Thanks for the instructional video.
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This package looks really solid, obviously, but I would've preferred a hi-res download code to 9 CD's. Assuming that all the tracks end up on streaming services, I could even get by without the code. Still, it's great to see the material being remastered and released.
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I haven't checked this forum or posted anything since before the ST Tour began. Even though I had tickets, I was not THAT stoked to see the show because I'm not really a fan of the new album and I felt let down by their performance on the Drones Tour. I figured that I would go into the show fresh and hope to be pleasantly surprised. Beyond a couple Twitter pics of the robot suit, the metal medley and talk of on-stage performers, I really didn't know a thing about the show before attending their gig in Detroit last week. To be honest, I was anticipating a bit of a disaster of excess and overkill. That said, it was kind of exciting going to a concert without knowing the set-list or seeing the visuals in advance for a change.
At the end of the day, "pleasantly surprised" was a massive understatement! I thought that the concert was really great, in fact. The set-list was naturally quite predictable anyway but I was hyped when I heard the opening to Take A Bow. Was not expecting that at all after not personally hearing it even once over the past 3 tours. I was also totally caught off guard by the massive on-stage visitor during the metal medley which was actually really cool in itself. I mean, my Drones concert completely ignored Origin of Symmetry while this concert had Plug In Baby, and portions of Micro Cuts and New Born. That alone made it a better set-list, not to mention the fact that Undisclosed Desires and Resistance were finally put to bed. Mercy lives on but whatever.
I can't say that the show changed my opinion much of the new album but it still was not what I had expected. My favorite song on ST has always been The Dark Side which I thought was pretty lacklustre live. On the other hand, I'm don't care for Propaganda nor Dig Down at all but I thought that they both came off nicely. The choice to perform the intimate gospel version of DD at the center stage was definitely the way to go. Algorithm was easily the best ST song for me with respect to the performance and impact of the visuals. Pressure was peppy enough, Break It To Me still does not do much for me and Thought Contagion was, well, Thought Contagion. I don't know that the choreographed performers added much to the show beyond the Algorithm routine but they didn't really detract either or look as corny as they could have.
All the expected Muse standards sounded really good, in my opinion, and the pacing of the show was SO much better than the Drones concert that I attended. The crowd seemed more engaged and lively as well considering that the arena was only 2/3 full. The upper bowl was completely blacked out with curtains. As far as I'm concerned, it only meant that several thousand people missed their chance to catch a really awesome concert. Even though Muse didn't quite convince me that Simulation Theory is anything approaching a good album, they did restore my faith in them as a live act. Colour me impressed.
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1 hour ago, notkueller said:
lol we'll see
Count me in the "lol we'll see" category.
Robots, "performers" and choreography at a Muse concert sounds like even odds to be either an idiosyncratic spectacle or a cringeworthy disaster. Possibly both at the same time. Adding my general apathy toward Simulation Theory to that, I'll say that I'm at best cautiously optimistic about seeing them in April. That said, I have the tickets and I'm sure it will all make for an interesting show.
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23 hours ago, That Little Animal said:
More props and extras means fewer rotations i’m afraid. Though that giant robot thing blows the dildrone out of the water, doesn’t look like cardboard and staples at all.
I just hope that the robot suit is more technically sound that the drones were considering that the dildrone and one of the orbs crashed into the crowd at the show that I attended.
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Their approach to setlist construction is pretty predictable.
1. Play half the new album
2. Ignore the previous album except for 1 or 2 holdovers. And, yes, why is it Thought Contagion this time?
3. Play singles from OoS to Drones
4. Pretend Showbiz never happened
5. Repeat sequence for every show including a couple rotation slots
It's all perfectly fine and functional but doesn't exactly encourage fans to attend more than one gig. Apparently, the band doesn't get too bored with the routine.