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right; "anything" could correlate. absolutely no way to prove what that variable(s) could be. especially as something as flimsy as " i talked to some people at 3 or 4 shows and they said different things about the setlists"
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You might not have mentioned it specifically but I've seen other people mention that, so apologies. I still stand by my statement though. Plus the last time I checked Matt is only accurate with what he tells us about 3% of the time, feel like people take things said much too seriously, and again; if you're buying $100's worth of tickets based on words and past tours, you're setting yourself up for trouble. I'm not saying you can't be annoyed, but you took the risk so you gotta go with it.
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Call it expectations all you want, but all you're doing is making guesses. no one tour (and this goes for any band) can ever predict what a future tour will bring. From what I've seen Muse never plays the same shows for festivals as they do stadium tours, so idk why everyone thought that would magically change this time. As I said before, if you're throwing down big bucks for multiple shows you need to acknowledge the risks inherent, not hope/guesstimate/predict that the shows are going to be what you want and then get pissy when they're not.
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I agree. As far as Muse goes a time when someone gets "fucked over" is extremely rare. I'd say an actual existence of this would be say the Philly show I went to last tour. The special pre-gig before the show got CE, and then during the concert we got animals and guiding light while all the other shows prior and after got NSC, Fury, Agitated, US, BH, etc. and the boys energy level were definitely down since they traveled overnight. But out of all the shows I've been to that's the only complaint I have, so I'd say that's pretty good. DeLarge on the other hand has been to numerous shows with rare songs played (and according to his gigs attended list, has suddenly been to shows as far back as 2004 when he was 11 years old) and yet still complains. He even found a way to complain about the Webster Hall gig, which in my estimation is the best concert I've ever been and will go to. Some people just can't be pleased, ever.
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i disagree. when you're spending that kind of money you cannot make those choices based off of assumptions and predictions; but that's just me
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there's no such thing as getting "fucked over" (for the most part) when it comes to going to concerts. we all play the lottery with how many shows we go to. we're not guaranteed to get 6 different sets at 6 different shows so its stupid to sit back and complain about how one set of shows got this and the other didn't, that's a risk you take going into purchasing tickets. it's never a secret that Muse doesn't change their nightly sets much, so if you buy $500 worth of tickets you can't have high expectations. addition: in no way am I saying that it's correct that it works out that way, but with Muse that's the way it is. If you want to buy tickets to 6 gigs, that's great; but you can't go into the shows assuming that because you spent all that money you'll get something "special".
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numbers? in absolutely no way can you assume that there is a correlation between lower ticket sales and the fans annoyance at the sets being played from your "research". you're a statisticians worst nightmare.
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you saw assassin and hyper music at the mayan, you've lost all rights to complain
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on a happy note, the set is evolving to something a lot more fun, so let's hope that trend continues.
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when there's upwards of over 10,000 people at a show, you can't chat with several people and then make generalizations off of that, that's just ridiculous. even if you talked to 50 people per show and have been to every US show with an average attendance of 9K you've spoken to .5% of the population. sharing opinions is fine, but don't act like you can accurately speak for everyone attending this tour.
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Live Gig Discussion (Sexy Ass Drone) III: Now with less Fabri
Museman8989 replied to Furygirl's topic in Tours
do you go around interviewing every single casual fan before the show? starlight isn't going anywhere, you need to get over it.- 3,107 replies
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i agree the way they introduce a song like that can go a long way. but matt is by no means a smooth talker, so he'd actually have to practice that type of thing
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#NeverSatisfied
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Yeah the NYC crowd was insane. Even starlight got people jumping around.
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Lovely*
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I don't think Matt is one to be that tongue in cheek on the spot. If he says something along the lines of "we're gonna play this song even though most of you don't know it", then that's what it means. I highly doubt he said that phrase while thinking "I'm so tired of people wanting to hear CE".
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Well Muse generally plays different sets for tours vs. festivals vs. whatever; I'm fine with that because that's an established thing for them, I wouldn't expect those shows. But to rework the setlist to a lesser quality version here and then drive a couple miles North and have a totally different attitude is definitely hurtful to hear as a fan.
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What vexes me most about what Matt said before CE last night is that he's admitting they're playing the song in spite of knowing most people don't know the song. Do they not think America is any different? Him saying that implies that America knows of the "older" muse even less than Canada where only "10 people" know it as it is apparently. So he knows most of the crowd isn't going to know it but plays it for them, but they won't do that here? That one totally loses me.
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i agree as well. the 2nd law tour did a very solid job of varying things up. there was usually 4 songs a night that rotated in and out and you got a solid array of their catalog. now with Map in for PiB we have no songs pre-absolution and that to me is inexcusable. as its been stated the show is by no means bad, but it could so easily be so much better. i think (for americans at least) this will go down as by far the most frustrating tour they've ever done.
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oh look its a pretentious entitled little boy who thinks he deserves everything and cries when he doesn't get it. i dare you to go to a concert and enjoy it.
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i dont consider this so much an argument but more about dan just saying things and everyone else disagreeing, which is par for the course
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I'm at a loss for words with you sometimes. Since when is there any correlation between arriving to a concert early and "deserving rewards"? In my experiences a lot of the people at the front push their way there from the back once the show has started. But knowing you I'm sure you'd get security involved to prevent such a travesty from occurring.
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So if this clearly something that annoys so many of us so much is there anything we can actually do to change things?
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2016.01.23 - Le Centre Videotron, Quebec City, QC, Canada
Museman8989 replied to halo eighteen's topic in Gigs
my friend and i are driving up from new york to see this show. can anyone recommend a hotel to stay at nearby? (reasonable priced preferably). its our first time going to canada, so any other tips would be appreciated. thanks! -
im not telling how to rectify your "problem" but you sure as hell are an entitled whiner.
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