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On 10/3/2022 at 1:19 PM, buddah26 said:
Must have been Webster Hall? If so, I was there, also scared to the bone the floor was going to cave in.
This had to be Webster Hall. I was right behind the soundboard and the monitors all fell over the second psycho started. I remember thinking the floor would collapse as well.I am really excited for this show as well. Was considering a last minute trip for the Toronto show, do we think the set lists would be different enough to warrant it?
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In a recent interview Matt mentioned a North American tour from February to April….have to think an announcement would be coming soon.
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Any more info out there about the show at Jim Beam? I entered the contest and didn’t hear anything so I’m assuming I lost but it is dead silent about this gig.
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Is there actually a gig taking place at the Jim Beam Distillery on October 8 as previously discussed? I entered the contest to win tickets but there is very little information out there.
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Any idea of what to expect for the stage? Will it be the same as the US Arena tours but scaled to size?
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Hi,
I will be attending the show from the US. I keep reading about transportation issues back to London after the show. Can someone please explain why it is so difficult? Also, what is the best way to get back? We will most likely be staying in Covent Garden.
Thanks!!
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Does anybody know the format for this? Approximate time they’ll go on and how long they play for? It’s hard to tell if it will be Muse or Florence as the headliner. I’m assuming they’ll play for about 45 minutes?
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looks like i didn’t get in
I’m assuming I didn’t either, but how did you find out.
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Anyone hear anything yet?
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That sort of genre is really popular here, and the lyrics were perfectly sappy/relatable romance stuff. The build up kept it from being completely boring, the lyrics were delivered well, and it felt sincere, whereas Dig Down feels like it panders/milks the current climate (by "feels like" I mean "totally does.")
Serpent, I disagree with this a bit. To me the popular songs here, in the US, are about a catchy beat, rhythm. "Bite that tattoo on your shoulder"....courtesy of the chabismokers. Terrible song catchy beat. Lyrics have little to no meaning. Dig down will not appeal to those people.
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I don't get Dig Down at all. If they were trying for a pop song they missed...horribly. I think it is kind of an obscure song. It's not something that will be played on repeat on the radio in the US. There really isn't anything catchy or poppy about it. It's slow and uninspired.
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Are there any songs that may be rotated? I'm thinking they would be Resistance and Plug in Baby. Any ideas what they would put in there place?
Seems like he's totally dropping the piano now too. This is like watching an athlete fade away at the end of their career.
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Do other bands have advisors for their setlists...?
In fairness, the fans screaming for Deadstar were the same 15 fans that go to every single NA gig and wait outside in the morning, some of whom weren't even from the US.
Not a good measure of the crowd.
What you do have to wonder at, is the decision to refuse to play a rarity (even counting Bliss, CE and PiB now as rare) due to crowd reaction, but then deciding that it would be better to play a joke Halloween song that the crowd doesn't know instead. That's a real wtf moment, even without the inexcusable playback.
I don't mean an advisor for set lists per se, but every decision at this level is a business decision. They are dubbed "the best live band in the world." If I were there business manager I'd be pretty pissed about them trying to get away with a pre-recorded video of the frontman. It's not good for the bands image. Also not good when your setlist choices are alienating your base...that's your guaranteed ticket money. Can't just rely on casual ticket sales, what if the new songs don't catch on?
The actual fifteen people yelling up front were. But that's a hell of a lot better interaction with the crowd they've gotten since. I was there, other people knew immediately in my section when it turned green what it meant (I was in seats).
The people they are catering to are there for two songs. They react to them only. So play whatever you want because those people just sit there anyway.
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Do they not have advisors? I mean it's been beaten to death, but take the NKOK spot, add in B&H, assasin, something, and your oldest fans are happy. It's really not hard. The fact they don't do it screams of arrogance and obstinance. If they want a reaction toss something to people who have been fansbfor decades. Look at the crowd interaction with Matt when he asks the MSG crowd what song they want (Deadstar). Would you prefer that or a bunch of casual fans not paying attention to NKOK?
This is also where today's journalism falls short. Don't praise them for everything they do, put them on the spot. Blatantly ask you're loyal fans would love to hear one obscure song. Why won't you play one?
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It's really a shame they feel they have to fit in to this pop culture. Listen to this song and then compare to anything off of Absolution. Musically it's not even close. This song is soooo repetitive and boring. It is just a reworked Madness. pretty funny the fan made versions are better.
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They don't you are right, and that is my point. They protect their voices, instead of trashing them. Not rehashing the rest, it's in the posts above
McCartney loves being on the stage and performing for people. It is blatantly obvious if you go see him that performing is his love. This is the reason he is on tour so much. I am not saying that Muse doesn't like performing but there is a definite difference and it is noticeable.
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The crowds are the way they are in the US because of Madness. It is that simple. While standing in line in the grocery store today Madness came on the easy listening station they play. The woman behind the register literally told me how much she loved the band who sings it but couldn't remember their name. They released that song to go after the general public (aka cash grab) and they got it. Now they have no right to complain that the crowds are calm when their most famous song here is considered easy listening. They veered away from their sound to get a wider audience base. Well, they got it and now they have to figure out how to work it out. Pissing off fans who have been around for a long time is probably not the way to go.
On a different note while demoing some skis this week while the bindings were being set PiB came on in the store and every employee along with some other patrons knew it immediately by the feedback. People do know your older songs Muse. Maybe you could use the concerts as a way to introduce fans to some of your older stuff. Don't apologize for it, make it exciting. Instead of "none of you know it, please bear with me" try something like "here is an older one a ton of our fans love, get ready to rock." Huge difference there. One makes the crowd want to go to the bathroom, the other piques their interest. Kind of like if I cook dinner for someone. I don't apologizer and tell them it sucks as I hand them the plate. No matter how good it is they are expecting it to suck.
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There will most definitely be another North American leg later in the summer. Lollapalooza has been rumored for muse, and that's in early August. Then Australia/NZ at the end of the year, when it's summer down under.
In North America, they'll either;
1. Play smaller venues
2. Team up with another band of similar stature as a co-headliner
3. Continue playing arenas on their own and just deal with the 1/3 full arenas
3 seems the most likely
What are you basing this information on? Only questioning because this has me excited because I thought they already said there was no second leg.
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The only ones that would bother me are ones where important aspects of the song are removed, like Blackout; that solo is pretty integral to the song.
Follow Me, I honestly liked Matt's "performance" and the guitar really didn't bring a ton to the song (and was an addition, anyways.)
For ones like Uprising, I would imagine the sound levels just weren't correct?
I don't want it to be a ton of songs, because Matt IS renowned as a great guitarist, and I do love watching him play, but I've surprisingly found this is not one of the things that really upsets me right now.
I was going through some old random reviews, and there really is a ton of stuff out there about how non-interactive Matt is with the crowd, and how people find that to be off-putting.
I personally think Matt could get better at between song banter instead of dropping the guitar to be more "personable" - but we know that's not going to happen.
The lack of Muse interaction with the crowd is something my wife always comments on. She has been to 9 shows and without fail after each one she always comments on how the band basically says nothing to the crowd other than once or twice yelling "thank you (enter name of city here)" or something along those lines. His light up glasses and not playing a guitar does not help with this. They should try playing a rarity and introduce it with some sort of story of when it is written (this is something acts that have been around forever do, such as Paul McCartney, Billy Joel).
On that note he has definitely improved this over the years and has been getting better with the crowd. I thought the way he interacted with the fans in Toronto two nights in a row when they requested Dead Star was awesome.
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Theres plenty of frontmen who dont play. Its still being played. Its just Bellamy being known as a major guitar player that makes it awkward.
The set is at least half pop, anyways.
I agree that there are plenty of frontmen that don't play however they often aren't the lead guitarist (this all started after they opened for Bono btw). Muse is a three piece band that brings in an extra guy to help fill in the sound because their songs are complex dropping a piece is a big deal. When his guitar kicked in during Uprising it was jarring how much more full and powerful the song was. It actually sounds terrible without his guitar so that is a problem. I don't know if Morgan's guitar is not turned up enough or what the problem is but it is definitely different.
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It's not how I like to see him, but admittedly the 360 gives Matt an excuse to be guitar less. Taking every possibility to be as mobile as possible, so not all the songs are static angles.
I saw a couple of videos from Mexico where Matt would spin in a little circle at the mic stand in between lines, when he was playing.
Possibly it's as awkward to play with half the crowd at your back as it would be to watch.
You will see when you go, he runs all over the stage with the guitar. The 360 worked really well. There are plenty of mics for him to have different positions. Not having the guitar does not help him play to the crowd more.
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Guys, quick question. Which seats are better, 304, 321 or 331? I know they are basically all the same-ish, but which is the safest bet for seeing the band upfront and not seeing their backs? Plz reply asap my sister is about to order tickets for the Chicago concert...
The band does not stay in one spot for more than a minute at a time. There are microphones all over the stage. Chris and Matt are constantly switching positions. I LOVED the 360 setup. Only shows I felt more connected to the band were Psycho tour at Webstar Hall and the MTV VMA's at a Broadway theatre. You want to make sure you are center ice/half court for the full experience. Try not to be out at the tips of the arrows.
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A couple of observations from the show last night:
1. I really like the 360 set up. It gives the vast majority of the crowd excellent views. They did a great job of rotating the different positions.
2. Crowd was blah. I am used to seeing them in NY and the northeast and this crowd wasn't as into it as what I have experienced in the past.
3. Was happy to get AP, would have preferred CE or Bliss over PIB but I've seen them before so hard to be upset.
4. There is a reason Muse plays these sets in the US. The songs with the loudest reaction were Uprising, madness, UD and Mervy. TIRO and Hysteria close behind. Matt announced PIB as a "very old song." Did his usual trying to get the crowd to sing along and it definitely appeared the majority didn't know the words. The new songs were great. It was my first time seeing Handler, Globalist and Mercy. They were awesome, Revolt is OK live.
5. My one complaint is Matt needs to stop prancing about. Dropping the guitar during starlight and uprising really serves no purpose. It was blatently obvious how much more powerful uprising was when Matt started playing the guitar.
6. Go see the show. You probably not get a rarity (save 2nd night LA and possibly Newark) but The Handler and The Globalist make it totally worth it.
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Any guesses on setlist? It looks like they are going to rotate the position Bliss is in with Residtance. Apparently CE was played in Dallas because the fans requested it. I hope we don't get the shaft and get Resistance and no OoS songs.
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