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  1. 2 hours ago, Jobby said:

    *deeper breath*
    Unintended (+ pretty sure Falling Down was still in A for its revival, just shorter)

    Darkshines, Futurism

    Eternally Missed, Fury

    TAB, Exo-P (u ain’t wrong)

    MKU

    Revolt

    Oh damn, completely forgot some of those. The part of my brain reserved for Muse facts is not what it once was. 

  2. It's pretty common to lower the key simply to keep the voice from getting destroyed. It's one thing to be able to sing a difficult song. it's another to be able to do it along with 15-20 other songs several nights a week when your sleep is irregular. 

    He also has a few other strategies for keeping the voice rather than just lowering the key. In Propaganda, Feeling Good, Explorers, Resistance and others he simply replaces the few high chest notes that the songs have with falsetto. And in songs like Dead Inside and Survival, he lowers the specific high notes to another note in the same key. 

    And then ofc there's always the strategy of Big Freeze.

  3. To answer the question about half a step down first (since it's easier): Cave in 2009-2010, Falling Down in 2012, Showbiz since 2017, Muscle Museum since 2015, Sing For Absolution from late 2003 and onward, Starlight had a very small number of performances in the original key before being lowered, Invincible was lowered in 2008 iirc, I have a feeling that Exo-Politics was lowered but can be wrong on that.  *deep breath* No lowered songs on The Resistance, then Madness on T2L and honestly after that is when I stopped paying attention to Muse's normal tours. 

    Regarding tempo, a bunch of their songs changed tempo in their early career before everything was set to a metronome. New Born used to be the most popular example of fans whining because of the lowered tempo live. In reality they just started playing it at the same speed as the studio version. It's just that they had a period of a few years when they played it faster.

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  4. Simulation Theory was my favourite album since...probably BH&R, but what they did with synths felt less like them perfecting the sound they had dabbled in before and more like just leaving it behind to copy a particular synthwave sound. I don't see much continuity other than just "they used synths". 

    "Synths should augment the piano and guitar pieces, not replace them" is a pretty strange take though. There's plenty of artists who simply make synth music with the synth as the main instrument. 

  5. Absolutely. Sadly, I don't really like that the piano has turned into either a background instrument or just an instrument for ballads. The Void (acoustic, which I still can't believe didn't get strings. Criminal) and Isolated System are both great though. 

  6. On 7/19/2021 at 9:17 PM, Silentgod86 said:

    I'm struggling to think of anything since Exogenesis where I felt Matt was trying to do something interesting other than mess around with waveforms on a synthesiser.

     

    The Void does it for me

  7. On 6/23/2021 at 1:59 PM, Claudia O said:

    I compared the new version to the old one, the guitar (or bass?) kicks in at the same time, 0:06 😬

    No they don't? The old version is still up on youtube, and the bass definitely kicks in half a second earlier on the early version (which shouldn't be a surprise really, since it so clearly cuts off the beginning beat of the song)

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  8. Nah at least Something Human and Dig Down started as the stripped down versions. Matt said as much around the time of the album release.

     

    I remember because it was such a dumb thing. They began the writing process by talking about how great it was to be able to work on individual songs without having to consider the rest of the album. They also talked about the freedom it gave them to go in any direction they felt like with every song.

    Then when the album was released Matt revealed that they wrote the gospel version of Dig Down and thought it didn't fit with the other songs they had written so they rewrote it all to fit into a synthwave/electronic rock sound. So dumb, and so Muse.

    And we can just look at the OoS remix to see that their attitude to songwriting has changed. They specifically said that they removed the strings because it was a bit too much and the songs became too all over the place and overpacked. Same thing with songs on Absolution.

    Abso also had songs like Blackout, Endlessly and Ruled By Secrecy. None of which have any over the top ridiculousness that basically every Muse ballad has these days. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, Silentgod86 said:

    Considering that Muse used the more stripped down version of Algorithm for Simulation Theory, I'm not so sure that the argument of OoS Remixx sounding like what modern Muse would do, holds much water. 

    One song doesn't really disprove what we're theorizing. Especially not when that same album contains songs like Something Human, Dig Down and The Void which all had more stripped down original versions. And it's not like this is a new thing. In my opinion, Muse have put unnecessary additions to songs for years now. Still think the backing vocals and guitar solo in Madness goes completely against the vibe of the rest of the song.

  10. 18 hours ago, That Little Animal said:

    Is anyone else noticing the weird volume changes in New Born? That to me is another indication that it was rushed. Also the inconsistency between songs, like they were all edited independently of each other and not revisited a second time after to make them match. If it had been consistent with Futurism as the Gold Standard, it would have been a winner. 
     

    Was it just Matt and Dom doing these over a few beers? 

    I didn't notice any volume issues with New Born, but what I am noticing is a super high pitched noise. Like, not an instrument but pulsating overtones that are really fucking with my ears. Very noticeable during the outro riff. 

    And about this album as a whole, it's so clearly not "the way it was always supposed to sound" or whatever Matt said. They've literally just tacked on every single thing that was previously left out due to...actual music-related reasons. I know I might be reading into it too much but it really solidifies my biggest issue with Muse these days. They simply don't understand subtlety or "sometimes less is more" anymore. 

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  11. On 5/29/2021 at 9:11 PM, Silentgod86 said:

    God forbid anyone has a different opinion to you. As someone who bought the album the day it came out and pretty much shitpost on most things Muse do these days, I find the above amusing. I can't really tell if you're doing a meta joke of Citizen Erased lyrics or if you're just really stressed about something and using this as a pressure valve. 

    I have to say I'm really happy we finally have someone who witnessed the recording of OoS to tell us what really went down and that they people who literally wrote and recorded the album are lying to us because they have a 20 year grudge against a synthesiser track. Are you really sure you're not doing a meta joke of the Citizen Erased lyrics, it would be epic if you were.

    Break me in, teach us to cheat

    And to lie, cover up

    What shouldn't be shared

    And the truth's unwinding

    Scraping away at my mind

    Please stop asking me to describe

    Frankly, you seem to be the only one unwilling to accept other people's opinions. Jobby hasn't questioned anyone other than Matt himself, because what Matt's saying now is directly contradicting what he said back when the album was released. 

  12. The opening drums are weak as fuck, but other than that, I like a lot about the new mix. It's not gonna replace the original, but it's fun to hear certain parts more clearly.

     

    It's interesting how they back in 2001 went "nah, the strings are too much" but in 2021 it's "yeah, put those strings back in". Very telling of the difference between 2001 and 2021 Muse.

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  13. 2 hours ago, Jobby said:

    Ooh, good question, out of old Muse songs?

    Falling Down would maybe be #1. Then Shine, Endlessly, Hoodoo or even Starlight just behind. HCM could be a contender too.

    Oh I would absolutely love a cover of Ewan McGregor's Endlessly.

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  14. 5 hours ago, Claudia O said:

    Oh yes, gonna watch it tonight 👍

    I had to read the songs ... but we already got Fury and Megalomania from this concert, right? Nice to watch it again, plus Bliss, KOC without the intro ... 

    We have them already but interestingly enough it's a new video edit, probably because it was done by the people at TCT as opposed to Tom Kirk.

  15. On 9/12/2019 at 9:14 PM, MarcosDA92 said:

    Anyone knows the warm up songs before the show?

    In the Simulation Theory Tour before the concert there is a playlist of cool songs like stranger's Things intro

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5uCrNtzivZvi0ckHwLaPBZ?si=CF5FtDYiRHSfqSwGAOk76w here you go

     

    EDIT: Honestly didn't even notice this was almost a year old. It just showed up as the latest post to me. Man this forum is dead.

  16. I think he's saying he's putting more power into it than necessary.

    Anyway I don't think it's weird that he's releasing it under his own name. We all know he's the main songwriter, and here we have a version with just the piano and vocals, both written by Matt. I doubt Dom or Chris have any issue with it.

  17. Honestly I was never a big fan of Unintended to begin with. I like the instrumentation here, but Matt's soft voice is very hit and miss these days. The cover of We'll Meet Again that he uploaded works so, so well and I'm very excited for a full cover. This however? Probably won't really listen to it again, much like Tomorrow's World.

     

     

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  18. 30 minutes ago, Nunki said:

    You can find it on Matt's YouTube channel too. Some people were surprised  Matt had a YT channel but it's been a thing for 1 year 😉

    huh? No it hasn't. It literally says "Joined Mar 4, 2020" on the channel. The Topic channel that Pray is on is an auto-generated thing by Youtube.

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