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2 hours ago, sweetdave said:
Is this forum now dead....is everyone on a discord server or something.....getting too old for this but I expected a few threads blowing up with reactions to the album...(picks up cane and goes back to napster)
Current Muse fans are on discord, Reddit and Twitter. The fans who used to be here are...on Facebook I guess
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7 minutes ago, AC46 said:
What the fuck do I care what you think of my reasons?
What's your reason for sharing them then?
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3 hours ago, Silentgod86 said:
One of the good things is that the songs are short and even when bad, don't overstay their welcome.
You know, you don't HAVE to listen to songs you find bad.
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Okay now that I've heard every song at least 5 times, I have to say this is a really strong album. I was pleasantly surprised by the highlights of Simulation Theory, but it had a fair share of absolute stinkers. This album has Liberation and Will of the People which I can't imagine myself getting into, but they're also not bad. And everything aside from that is good to great.
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12 hours ago, muse samuse said:
Some song descriptions from Blood Records UK which has just released a limited vinyl Zoetrope edition of WOTP:
With Muse being Muse, there is NO bowing to any singular genre. The album’s title track “Will Of The People” brings playful provocation to a dystopian glam-rocker while there is an innocence and a purity to the nostalgic electronic textures of “Verona.” From the visceral thrill of “Won’t Stand Down,” to the industrial-tinged, granite heavy riffs of “Kill Or Be Killed,” or the lightning-bolt rush of “Euphoria,” the album concludes with the frenetic finale of the brutally honest “We Are Fucking Fucked.”
The Halloween track has also been described as 'spooky synth-rock' in another advance review.
That's from a press release from back in March: https://themusicuniverse.com/muse-announces-will-people/
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On 7/21/2022 at 9:31 PM, Claudia O said:
I wonder how „Live and let die“ influenced it, maybe only its title?
"Lyrically the song takes influence from my favourite Paul McCartney song “Live and Let Die”, a dark take on how life’s adversity can sometimes bring out the worst human instincts to survival at any costs."
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16 hours ago, Silentgod86 said:
About a week ago, Matt said it would be released in a couple weeks so I would presume at most 14 days from now.
When was this? I mean where's the quote from
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3 hours ago, Clunge said:
It's miles better than Pressure though. In fact, all three WOTP songs are better than nearly anything on ST, which is a bonus.
So far, all the singles have been better than Dig Down, Pressure and Thought Contagion, but nowhere near The Dark Side, Propaganda, The Void, Blockades or Algorithm for me.
I'm expecting another Muse album with 3-4 great songs and the rest ranging from terrible to decent but none of which I would ever choose to listen to.
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The new riff after MOTP was confirmed by Dan (the new Morgan) to be from Kill or Be Killed btw.
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Yeah it was posted last Thursday
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54 minutes ago, Silentgod86 said:
They've also gone on about spending more time in the studio or stop releasing albums and release EPs instead or becoming a house band in some dive bar while they record a new album. But we always end up with the same cycle with decreasing returns. There's nothing stopping them spending more time in the studio, no tours on the horizon and they are not exactly struggling indie band needing to get back on the road to pay the bills. I don't care really how long they spend in the studio, some bands end up producing both more and better with less time, but I'm not going to take Matt seriously when he says they could record multiple albums back to back. If they really wanted to, they could and would.
They did spend more time in the studio this time around though?
Anyway it doesn't really matter if they don't end up doing all the things they say they wanna do. They wanted to do just singles for Simulation Theory, but then went back on it and started doing an album. That doesn't mean they lied when they said they wanted to do just singles. The reason we take their statements with a grain of salt is because, as you say, they end up going the normal route every single time. And I very much doubt they're actually gonna stop touring and start recording album after album. That wasn't my point. My point is simply that they're clearly enjoying their time in the studio. And I see no reason why Matt wouldn't just say "Honestly we just wanna get out there and tour" if that's how he felt.
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5 minutes ago, Silentgod86 said:
They've been saying crap like that since before Absolution. I'll take it seriously when we start seeing more than 10-11 songs per album cycle, not by interviews meant to hype the next album.
No they haven't? What they have said, multiple times, is that when you're in the studio you long for the road, and when you're on the road you're longing to get back into the studio.
not sure why saying that they want to record more music would be a way of hyping this current one. What they always say is that they wanna get out and play the songs to people. This time there was none of that
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7 hours ago, Silentgod86 said:
This. You always get the impression that Muse put everything they record onto the album. I wouldn't mind a 37 minute album at all if I thought 5 weak songs were cut and would be released as b-sides (remember those!). It means it's less likely there'll be tracks I really like on album. I just find it disheartening that Muse can only come up with 37 minutes of music after 4 years. I'll live but it just comes across as incredibly unproductive for folk who are professional musicians. It feeds into my theory that the band don't particularly enjoy making music anymore and have been on autopilot for the last 2-3 albums.
Matt literally just had an interview where he talked about how much they enjoyed making music together, almost to the point where they thought about JUST making music instead of touring
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Really interesting interview actually! Interesting to hear that Dom apparently called the shots and made the creative decisions this time around.
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Song lengths have leaked apparently: https://twitter.com/takeunobow/status/1504503553758486534/photo/1
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Oh and the song...well it and Won't Stand Down are both better than the lead singles to Simulation Theory, but worse than Dead Inside and Psycho. I still believe this can be a pretty good Muse album. But a whole album of this quality would be thoroughly underwhelming and just...mediocre.
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2 hours ago, AE3522 said:
Yes, for me, the pills make it seem like people are given the choice to join the Matrix, or not.
That's the origin but for a bunch of years now it's been used by the alt-right and other radicalised groups as a metaphor for "waking up", usually by realising that feminism, progressive ideals and just...believing in facts is wrong. Considering the rest of the lyrical content, I'd say it's far more likely to be related to that, rather than just The Matrix itself.
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Just now, Timbo59 said:
so there's no song called The Great Reset, and the whole debate about Matt potentially making this a covid conspiracy album was all unfounded? So let's not get too upset about him potentially rhyming Verona with corona. TBH it would be weird for Muse not to lyrically explore things related to the shitshow of the last two years. Knowing Matt's poor lyrics (still don't know how 'the final solution' made it onto a single) it probably will be a bit cringey in places, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till we actually hear any more tracks. I guess we'll find out when Compliance drops.
No, there was a song on the list called The Great Reset, but they changed it.
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3 hours ago, EternallyPissed said:
This post is so filled with informal fallacies, I'm not going to even touch it. It should be the subject of a community college critical thinking course for the class to dissect. Feel free to continue with your fallacies. I'm done here, for I must complete a poem I started, where I will specifically detail what my intent is and how others should interpret it within the writing, because isn't that the joy of art? Being told what to think and feel when subjected to it?
Something doesn't become a fallacy just because you don't want to acknowledge the argument. And you're doing quite a good job of providing your own fallacy at the end there. Matt doesn't have to do anything, but if he writes shit that panders to conspiracy theorists, I'm gonna criticise him. Oh the horror!
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16 hours ago, EternallyPissed said:
Okay, and I'm guessing if he were inquired about it today, Matt would say he regrets appearing on "The Alex Jones Show." Said interview occurred 16 years ago. How much has changed since then? I know I've changed. He made a mistake; has illustrated progression since then; and as I always say, "One shouldn't be judged for the person they were, but for the person they've become."
I do think there's a stark difference between intentionally spouting specific disinformation like, say Joe Rogan has with regard to COVID, and writing/singing vague lyrics, which can be interpreted in numerous ways. In the former example, the purpose of the speaker's message is to misinform his listeners and provide them with specific fabrications to either spread to others or try for themselves (or both). In the latter example, however, that's not the writer's/singer's intent. How can he help how a listener interprets a song? Let's be honest; even if he were to elaborate on the message and inspiration of a song in an interview, there will be some who deny his words and interpret the song as they so choose. It's like with anything nowadays. Provide a "flat-earther" with consistent scientific and visual evidence that the earth is indeed round and what are the odds he/she will suddenly see the light and believe said fact? Given my experience, very low.
I write satire, and there have admittedly been times when I've been approached by a reader or listener who had misinterpreted a message I was attempting to convey through my work. Now, there are times when the interpretation is so out in left field, yet not antithetical to my general message, I find the creative thinking to be fascinating, and won't necessarily correct them, unless they ask for me to do so. On the other hand, there have also been times when an interpretation has run so contrary to my intent, as to become offensive, I've felt the need to be completely upfront and say, "Eh, no, here's how it actually is." At the end of the day, though, how much control can I realistically have over how others interpret my work? Similarly, how much control can Matt have over how others interpret his?
"One shouldn't be judged for the person they were, but for the person they've become."
Yeah and Matt is still writing the exact same lyrical content as then. And while dismissing the conspiracy nutters in interviews, he still acts as if his own words have no effect on the world whatsoever, while also wishing for his lyrics to inspire people. You don't really get to mirror the statements of the conspiracy nuts who these days have proven to be quite dangerous to society, while also claiming that you have no part in the spread of their propaganda.
Also don't really buy your argument that since it doesn't matter if you provide a flat-earther with evidence, you might as well give into the discourse and use it in the same way they do...but just remove the words "flat earth", so you can pretend to sit on the fence while supplying fuel for the fire.
Now, maybe Matt surprises us all and comes out with the most poignant dismantling of these matters that we've ever seen. But your argument that he can't help how a listener interprets a song is just...flawed. Sure, even Rage Against The Machine have some right-wing nutters thinking they're talking about the modern left, but don't you think that crowd would have been slightly bigger if RATM actually intended to write for right-wing nutters? Or do you really think that it doesn't make a difference?
Let me put it like this: Muse's social media comment sections these past few days have been full of people going "So true. The governments have already kept us locked inside for 2 years under the guise of fear. And they're still pushing their supposed "vaccines"". But for some reason...I don't see these comments on the social media sites of my other favourite artists...
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Okay so my thoughts on the song: It's pretty fun.
I think the verses are cool up until the falsetto enters for the "opened my eyes" etc, then it just becomes a bit silly. Even worse in the second verse right before the bridge. But I strangely don't have an issue with the chorus, even though I totally see the similarities with songs like Revolt and GUAF which I hate. I'm a bit bothered by the fact that it doesn't seem to build very well. Like...the instrumental goes down in volume for the chorus, which means it's never really that satisfying.
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Matt has talked about his love for ABBA a couple of times, and mentioned it as an inspiration for one album, can't remember if it was The Resistance or Black Holes & Revelations. This comparison in particular was made very frequently back in 2009. So much that it's actually mentioned in the Musewiki.
https://musewiki.org/Unnatural_Selection_(song) I honestly recommend reading the page for every song for tidbits like this
edit: What I could find was that Dom mentioned ABBA as an influence for Absolution. https://musewiki.org/3VOOR12_2003-09-24_–_Interview_with_Dominic_Howard_of_Muse
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39 minutes ago, That Little Animal said:
So, back to album talk. There was more than a year between Dig Down and the album announcement for ST, and a year and a half between Dig Down and the final release of ST.
Any indications that it won't take quite as long this time around?Well Dig Down wasn't released as part of an album. They simply recorded a couple of songs and released one of them. Then they toured, went back into the studio and recorded a few more tracks etc. This time, they've recorded the whole album in one go, like they usually do.
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Don't think there are any big surprises here
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LP9: WOTP Discussion/Speculation Thread
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The Small Print and TOADA weren't very good when they came out