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  1. 19 hours ago, minnie said:

    Sorry, nothing, nobody, no how beats The Animals version!

    It’s not a competition though.

    And it’s kind of what I’m saying, it would be silly if Muse tried to approximate or copy the Animals’ version of a public-domain old folk song, and they didn’t. They made it their own which makes it a successful cover in my opinion. 

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  2. On 9/15/2021 at 11:52 AM, Claudia O said:

    It got re-released on the Warchild-compilation „1 love“ 

     

    ok. Never heard it before … but I think Muse butchered this song, sorry. Yeah, it‘s cool when Matt screams the lyrics. Yes, they made a shorter version of it, so made it their own. But I love the original, it‘s a masterpiece. Those high-hats are so high, in general it sounds so thin  😖 but! I‘d love to hear their version live now, with Matts lower vocals, more warmth to it, more richer in the sound 🤩 maybe I‘d like it then. 
     

    your opinions?

    I always liked Muse's version. I'm a sucker for a noisy or "heavy" song with a 3/4 or 6/8 time signature. Add to that he ballsy intro, the vocal delivery (a bit more than just screaming, I think), the bleep-bloop arpeggios Muse couldn't do without back then, it all fits perfectly with their sound from that time.

    Besides, there are so many renditions of this song already (at least for the last 400 years, apparently), that it would be silly to stay too close to any previously recorded version, it's kind of a nice blank slate that way. 

  3. On 7/19/2021 at 9:17 PM, Silentgod86 said:

    Would have preferred a version of Shine on Jeff's guitar or possibly Spiral Static as both those tracks have his influence at its strongest. Perhaps a full out cover could be in order for the future. But please for the love of God, stop trying to make Guiding Light a thing....

     

    Time for a ‘Jeff’s Guitar’ EP. It would be blasphemous and tacky, but he’s passed that station anyway with Guiding light, so what the hell. 
     

    Spiral Static

    Shine

    Falling Down

    Unintended

    FAWY

    Hoodoo

    Endlessly (maybe?)

    Animals (Doing a Knopfler on Buckley’s guitar, fuck it)

    Nishe

    And then a guitar version of Feeling Good to mirror Lilac Wine. 

    Guiding Light (instrumental) 

    Anything else? A completely reworked soulful version Uno, maybe? 

  4. On 7/11/2021 at 7:01 PM, svenisms said:

    On a semi-unrelated note, Pitchfork finally reviewed OoS and I must say, I’m pleasantly surprised!

    https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/muse-origin-of-symmetry/

    Nice! I think Pitchfork’s Sunday series of reviews of classics they’ve previously overlooked is (on their own scale) a bit skewed towards the positive. Probably because they are reviewed by people who already have an affinity for the albums, otherwise they wouldn’t consider them overlooked.

    And, of course, a contemporary review carries a lot of hindsight within it, with time and Muse’s consequent  (Post Absolution) releases lifting OoS into a more favorable light over time. 

    I’m sure they would have hated it back in the day. 

  5. Damn. He does make that guitar sound more like Jeff Buckley’s sound than I imagined he would. He should record more on that thing. FAWY. Falling Down. New songs. 
     

    TaB’s great too. I’d love an instrumental of that one. 

  6. 15 hours ago, krymmel said:

    I dont support the IT behemoths that fuck our lives up - including Amazon. And btw, I want to own the music I buy, so I can play it at my leisure.

    Fair enough when it comes to Amazon. Though I must note that downloading songs usually involves using a tech behemoth as well. And you can avoid Amazon and use Deezer instead for same HiFi quality. 

    With these services you do get to download the songs and play them offline. I suppose that’s not the same as owning them, but there is nothing restricting you from listening at your own leisure.
     

     

  7. 11 hours ago, krymmel said:

    why the FUCK cant i BUY & DOWNLOAD ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY
    XX ANNIVERSARY REMIXX ??? And no, I DONT USE STREAMING SERVICES.

    Im oldskool, i have all my music on HD and play it on my STEREO.

    Bring back the 24 bit 96 khz releases!!!

    I’m not oldskool. And I enjoy listening to ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY XX ANNIVERSARY REMIXX at 24 bit 96 kHz on STREAMING SERVICE Amazon Music. 

  8. 29 minutes ago, knightofcydonia said:

    I think it's been fixed on Spotify. Sounds like it to me, or maybe I'm overthinking it. Someone on a reddit thread also mentioned it was fixed on Spotify.

    So it was probably an issue with the files rather than  sloppy remixing. That's good. 

  9. 4 hours ago, Claudia O said:

    Ok… call me old-fashioned, but to me they sound too sterile, there‘s no warmth, soulless. It sounds unfinished to me. Matt said they wanted to make them sound more modern, well this is the problem I have with most modern (charts)music… it‘s too perfect! I know those are the original recordings, but did they cut out faults or something like that? Cut off edges? 
     

    I stick to the original.

    I wouldn’t say it’s too perfect, but it definitely lacks soul. It’s always hard to compare something like this to the way the original made me feel 20 years ago, so I’m not sure how much of the soullessness is imagined, but mix is undoubtedly harsher and sharper. 
     

    I see it more as a cabinet of curiosities, an interesting insight into the elements that were left out. Not an album to lay back and listen to start to finish (which I did to the original countless times).

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  10. Is anyone else noticing the weird volume changes in New Born? That to me is another indication that it was rushed. Also the inconsistency between songs, like they were all edited independently of each other and not revisited a second time after to make them match. If it had been consistent with Futurism as the Gold Standard, it would have been a winner. 
     

    Was it just Matt and Dom doing these over a few beers? 

  11. 2 hours ago, Jobby said:

    Triple post but sue me, first listen thoughts:

    New B: nothing really new here, just weaker imo, especially the final falsetto

    Bliss: minor improvement maybe? idk very close, this one, letting things breathe a bit more is nice for the chorus

    Space D : so I like the idea behind the strings but fuck me what a mess lmao, other than that v nice actually, can’t tell if I like the 3rd verse vocals coming in straight away or not

    Space D Outro : because this deserves its own spot - Y E S. No notes, just very good thanks.

    Hyper: hahahhahahaha fucking hell, ok the ‘spit it’ line comes through nicely now an I appreciate those last couple of teeny screams at the end but FUCK did they just blow this baby up

    PIB: meh, guitar sounds thinner and oddly buried at points

    Citizen: you know, no bueno

    Micro Cuts: harpsichord is comical imo, the choir/synth effect in the chorus is weaker which is BAD, what the FUCK is that noise during the outro and WHO got rid of the panning riff (appreciate the eerier vocals though)

    Screeny G: least changed I feel which is nice, very subtle overall, slightly more prevalent synths and that’s about it - chef kiss

    Darkshines: double tracked solos being clearer is a big yum, final feedback/fuzz build-up kicks in harder, overall a net gain but I miss the alien-y synth coming through clearer in all the choruses

    Feely G: up there for most improved, strings are very rudimentary and make it fit the record even less but maximum Bond achieved I guess, the reverb on the keyboard comes through really nice, the distortion really kicks but fuck me did Matt-y boy bury that Bb4 lmao

    Futurism: yes this is a big gain, massive WOOF on every front, drums couldn’t be more like this why?? yeah the vocal delay does get a bit annoying in general and the panning/trem effects are a bit much at the end for me

    Meg: yeah pretty decent, like I say

     

    Overall, I’ll be sticking to the OOM remaster for sure. Futurism will become my standard maybe but that’s it, maybe Space Dementia? Outro’s just too good and I could maybe learn to love the chaotic strings. Bliss and Screenager are untouched enough too I guess. Some tracks have nice elements or moments but have too many other aspects I don’t like, or just some too prominent.

    More than anything, this whole project has given me that extra appreciation for Matt’s vocals though. No one will ever convince me this wasn’t by a mile his best vocal performance on an album. A big reason why it hooked me so much 12 years ago and you ain’t gonna find intensity like it.

    The trashing of the panning in Microcuts! Can’t believe I didn’t catch that, was too focused on the new bits. That’s a shame indeed. 

    Overall I agree with everything there. Apart from Space Dementia, that one’s just too clipped busy and messy. The barrage of cymbal crashes was already pretty harsh, and now it’s just a long prominent uninterrupted streak of noise at times. 

  12. I wonder what they thought revisiting Screenager. Seems like one of their most dated songs to me. I’d have thought they’d have experimented a lot with this one and left a lot on the cutting room floor. But apart from some crackly noises, there isn’t anything new. Sounds good though.

    Darkshines: slightly different effect on the bass. Very similar to the original overall.

    Feeling Good. I can see why they left out the screechy strings originally. Megaphone section sounds better. 

    Whatever they did or didn’t do to the drums in Futurism is what they should have done throughout. Love the sound of the new mix. 
     

     

  13. Hyper Music new hyper screams and screeches are cool, nice freakout climax! The main vocals in the verses are a bit too clear and separated from the rest now maybe, minor gripe, it’s good. 

    I need to give PiB another listen later. Bass sounds louder. 

    CE into Microcuts without the siren transition is a bit harsh. Microcuts is massive though. Think I prefer this one now, despite the punch being taken out of the bass. That outro though! 

  14. Space Dementia sounds terribly clipped. Previously unused strings are a fun addition. Different drum shuffle in the bridge to outro is cool too. 
     

    Outro misses beef of the original. 

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  15. Didn’t realize the whole thing would be released!

    Listening on Amazon Music now. New Born is pretty close to the original so far, drums aren’t as nearly as bad as CE Made me fear they’d be. Overall layering and depth is improved for sure. 

    I’m sensing some weird jarring volume changes here and there though. Like what’s going on at 5:26 in New Born? Like someone accidentally twiddled the wrong dial for a moment. 
     

    On to Bliss. Nice. 

  16. 3 hours ago, Citizen_Eraser said:

    I think tonight at midnight. I read that on their fb (I think it was fb, but was posted somewhere recently) but it didn’t have a time zone. 

    Ah yes, just saw the Instagram post. 

  17. 32 minutes ago, Citizen_Eraser said:

    Clip of Microcuts just got posted. Its nice to have something new but seems like the bass got neutered in this mix. But that additional vocal is ace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7TOd9-CDKQ

    Hard to judge from the YouTube vid how the bass will turn out in the end, but in comparison to the original it definitely sounds like they pushed it to the background. That would be a shame, the simple bouncy beefy bass line is essential.  Did they announce when they’ll release the full version? 

  18. On 6/5/2021 at 8:29 AM, Jobby said:

    Aye, Meg actually sounds pretty great for the most part. Outro in particular really lets those vocals shine in a brill way. Strings are a bit heavy at the start for me and I feel like the organ could be just a hair more prominent. Mainly just the drums again though, is that gonna be a recurring thing? It’s not as bad as CE at times but they just sound flat in comparison to everything.

    Yeah. I’m worried about the drums. If the drums in Hyper Music, New Born and Space Dementia end up with the same issue, any improvements to those songs will basically be wasted. 

  19. 3 hours ago, svenisms said:

    "Time to crack on with a new album"
    Is the implication that they're ABOUT to hit the studio? Or just a sly nod to them already working on it? If it's the former, I reckon we should be anticipating a new album early NEXT year. Which is fine, I'm just going to need to take a long walk and think about things.

    Yeah, sounds like they’re just getting started. 

  20. 7 hours ago, Claudia O said:

    Positive: I love the strings and that you can hear the organ much better! It is cleaner. There‘s a bass which fits perfectly!

    Negative: the loud drums. Matt‘s gasping for air and you can hear his mumbling of the lyrics better. 

    For me it‘s a different song now, with a different feeling to it. Reminds me of the RAH performance 😊

    It’s interesting they’re leaving Matt’s gasps in. Perhaps it would be too much of a deviation from the original album to edit those out now. 

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  21. Megalomania sounds great! I alway thought that one missed the depth it deserved. Much better layering now, in both the loud and quiet bits, though the drums in the loud bits suffer from the same issue as the CE remix.  

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  22. On 5/28/2021 at 7:28 PM, Jobby said:

    I think it’s a combination of knowing things like that just aren’t true in the first place (I’m pretty sure there’s interviews you can find where they talked about consciously choosing to leave off the strings, and is Matt trying to imply that transition was like an accident or something? lmao) and it just feels kinda shitty/rude to imply that this version of the album and these details that people treasured all these years wasn’t actually the intended ‘proper’ version, which they’re now restoring. It feels...idk, maybe delegitimising is the word.

    It wouldn't be Muse if Matt wasn't talking out of his arse half the time though, so at least there's consistency there. 

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  23. On 5/29/2021 at 3:47 PM, Claudia O said:

    What‘s happening here right now 🤔 

    Ah! A glimpse of the board I got to know some years ago, when it was still alive, with fights !I don‘t want them back, no thanks!
     Everybody’s got their own opinions ... 

    :srsb33f:

  24. 1 hour ago, Jobby said:

    Matt saying in the BTS video that they basically deleted the phasing siren transition between CE and Micro Cuts so you could hear the strings better, and that it’s what they originally “meant” exactly sums up the bug bear I have about this project

    🤢

    I’m less opposed to the mix at this point (my first listen was a weirdly bad rip I think but I still *vastly* prefer the normal version) but the vibe/implication that this is actually the ‘real’ Origin that they meant to make all along is still all the yuck

    I don't really mind. I'm sure there were many things they "meant" or wanted to do back then that they didn't have the means or skills or time to pull off, and thank God they didn't, cause it turned out perfectly. 

    If they want to make a less-perfect rendition today --with a silly name and a crappy version of the original album artwork-- thinking it's what the album should have been, who cares? We get an extra interpretation to listen to and neither our memories, nor the original recording will be replaced. 
     

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